I love ventilation videos with aggressive music! As with many of the videos, pictures, and discussions we feature here, view this video as a training tool. Please feel free to leave comments on the pros and cons of some of these operations. We need to keep in mind that we were not on these roofs, so we don’t know what happened before or after each segment of the video. When viewing each segment, read the smoke, you can tell when you’re through the ceiling, and you should know what’s coming next. If you don’t, you shouldn’t be on the roof. –Jimm-
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As the “Roof Guys” we need to keep in mind that the drop ceilings on most (newer) commercial jobs are sometimes/usually 5ft or more below the roof that we are cutting. Those 4ft officer and 6ft roof hooks look good, but you really need the 8ft to 10ft hooks when opening up the roof to keep yourself outa the hole while knocking in the drop ceiling. great site and great topics as usual.
I’d like to point out the guys punching the roof are being held by the guy behind them, via their axes.
Nice to see those guys takin care of each other.
Man, imagine how the guys inside felt after all that heat and smoke was released and let go. Speaking from personal experience, you cannot effectively fight fire with unbearable heat and smoke inside. The truckies definately play a vital role on every fire scene. Good site, alot of good info and ideas, keep up the good work.
I like these “motivational” videos as much as the next guy. I agree with Jimm, if you don’t know whats coming, you shouldnt be on the roof.
Some thoughts I have:
Too many people on the roof (Though I would love to run with a 5 man crew)
Unless this a training scenario, how likely would it be to have a hoseline?
That is alot of fire to have under you. (look at all the other previously cut holes) Again, this may be a traing scenario.
The first guy that is being backed up by the boss, seemed to get a little pissy, (forget about it, this is business)this seemed to have him lose focus, note his reaction when the fire lit up.
I like those 2 fingered hooks, I would like to have some out here in the east.
just my $.02
Wow! I posted this video on youtube and did not think it would get this much attention, so everyone knows this is a video of Long Beach Fire Dept. training academy. I did a little editing from the original and use it for my Ventilation class. Thanks for all the comments and great footage from Long Beach.
Please note that those guys on the roof did not have a charged hose line on the roof until they finished venting very dangerous and that is one of the basic firefighting skills you are taught is never go in or on a roof with out a charged hose line with you.
So who brings the hose line? On the West Coast I teach ventilation and we do not bring a hose line to the roof during Vent ops.
Hoses are for engine guys that are scared of the heat and fire.
A hose line does not belong on the roof. Too many well intentioned firefighters have opened up a hoseline through a ventilation hole and driven a fire down onto their guys inside. If the fire is going that well that you don’t have guys inside then you shouldn’t be on the roof anyways. The only time I would consider a hoseline on the roof is when cutting a hole in an exposure roof to hold fire from spreading to an exposure building through the cockloft.
Well said!
Ditto
all in all good video,BUTT who in there right mind cuts two vent holl’s three feet apart and then walks between them.not so smart!
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this video as well as “Ring Of Fire II”…I’m on the east coast and would like to use these in ventilation classes we teach.
Thanks
Those “two finger hooks” you refer to are trash hooks. Good heavy heads with a wide punch great for knocking out rock or drop tiles.
Is the last few seconds a vid of Bow String Truss?